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Can the Apple M1 Max run Qwen3.8-Flash-Next?

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next · Apple M1 Max · 8,192 ctx · whole model residentQ2_K sizesize range

IT DOES NOT FIT

No. Even Q2_K, the smallest format evaluated, needs 72.4 GB against 64 GB, the largest Apple M1 Max configuration — short by 8.40 GB. No published file exists for this pair, so every size is rebuilt from the pinned architecture.

0/9formats that fit
64 GBdevice memory, largest configuration
72.4 GBneeded at smallest format
—speed unavailable: does not fit
400GB/s bandwidth
Run it in the cloud

Run Qwen3.8-Flash-Next anyway, on a rented GPU

The Apple M1 Max cannot hold it, but these rented machines hold the whole model. The ones worth choosing between, priced live and billed by the second.

Prices · 18:30 UTC, 22 Sept
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Speed
~1172 tok/sFaster than you read
Per million tokens
$0.25

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Speed
~1455 tok/sFaster than you read
Per million tokens
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No GPU at all

Use Qwen3.8-Flash-Next by the token

Here the rented card is as cheap as the API or cheaper per token ($0.25 per million), and it keeps your data on a machine you control. The API is still the easier start: nothing to set up and nothing to switch off.

First time renting a GPU? How it works, in four steps
  1. Create an account and add credit. Both providers are prepaid: $10 is enough to try any card on this page for hours. A new RunPod account that arrives through a referral link gets a one-time $5 credit when it first adds $10.
  2. Pick the card and the count shown here, and a template: llama.cpp or vLLM for an OpenAI-compatible API, or one with a web chat if you only want to talk to the model. “How to launch it” below gives the exact image and command.
  3. Wait for the download. The weights are fetched on the machine; tens of gigabytes take a few minutes on a data-centre connection. You pay by the second from the moment it starts.
  4. Stop it when you are done. A running machine bills even when idle. A stopped one costs nothing per hour, though its disk is usually still billed until you delete it.
How to launch it

No Q4_K_M file of Qwen3.8-Flash-Next is catalogued here, so there is no exact command to vouch for. Start the machine from the llama.cpp server image ghcr.io/ggml-org/llama.cpp:server-cuda and point -hf at a Q4_K_M build from the publisher or a quantizer you trust — search Hugging Face for one. Check its file size against the memory figure on this page before you rent.

Every machine holds the whole model at Q4_K_M and 8,192 tokens of context, no offload. Speeds are this site’s single-stream decode estimates; prices are what each provider’s own API quoted, on-demand, for the whole machine. Vast hosts below 98% measured reliability are left out.

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Runs well on your Apple M1 Max instead

The models nearest to Qwen3.8-Flash-Next — same lab first, then closest in size — that the Apple M1 Max holds whole at the standard format and runs at a usable speed. Nearest in size is not the same as equally good; compare them on the task you care about.

By memory configuration

The Apple M1 Max is sold with 32 or 64 GB of unified memory, and the amount decides the fit. Each row is the best format that fits in that much at 8,192 tokens, whole model resident.

MemoryBest format that fitsNeedsCalculator
32 GBnone fits—Open →
64 GBnone fits—Open →

Every format evaluated

No published file exists for this pair, so every size is rebuilt from the pinned architecture. The Basis column says which is which for each row. Decode and first-token figures are calibrated estimates, not runs on this card.

FormatNeedsOf 64 GBFitsDecodeFirst tokenBasis
FP16361.3 GB564%short by 297.3 GBdoes not run—size range
Q8_0192.5 GB301%short by 128.5 GBdoes not run—size range
Q6_K148.9 GB233%short by 84.9 GBdoes not run—size range
Q5_K_M129.7 GB203%short by 65.7 GBdoes not run—size range
Q5_0126.7 GB198%short by 62.7 GBdoes not run—size range
Q4_K_M111.6 GB174%short by 47.6 GBdoes not run—size range
Q4_0105.9 GB165%short by 41.9 GBdoes not run—size range
Q3_K_M91.1 GB142%short by 27.1 GBdoes not run—size range
Q2_K72.4 GB113%short by 8.40 GBdoes not run—size range

Sized at 8,192 tokens of context with the whole model resident — weights, the KV cache and the runtime reserve, offload off. Speed is only quoted for a format that fits: a rate for a configuration that cannot load is not a fact about anything.

Why the first-token figure is the same on every row

First token is modelled from the arithmetic the prompt requires, and that count does not change with the weight format — which is why it reads the same on every row. Real prefill does vary by format, because a quantized matmul is a different kernel; this model does not capture that, and the figure should be read as an order of magnitude rather than a ranking between formats.

What the labels mean
published data
Read from a published source — a file's byte count, a model's configuration or a manufacturer's specification — or exact arithmetic on such values. Not a measurement on a machine.
reconstructed size
Weight size reconstructed from the pinned architecture, because no published file exists.
size range
Only a lower and an upper bound are claimed for this weight size.
estimate
Calculated from sourced inputs by a stated method; an estimate, not a measurement.

Ways out

OPTION 1cluster

2× Apple M1 Max

2 of the same card, tensor parallel, holds it at Q2_K. Often cheaper than one larger card, and it is the option most sizing tools never mention.

Open that configuration →
OPTION 5system RAM

Offload to system memory

Keeping some layers on the host lets it load at all, at a large cost in speed. The calculator sizes the split and prices it.

Size the offload →
What this device does run

The full list is on the Apple M1 Max page.

Change anything

This page fixes the context at 8,192 tokens and one device. Batch, concurrent users, KV-cache format, clusters and rental cost are all in the calculator, already set to this pairing.

Open in the calculator →Everything the Apple M1 Max runsBest models for 64 GB

Where these numbers come from

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next’s architecture is read from its publisher’s own config.json at a pinned revision, and the Apple M1 Max’s 64 GB and 400 GB/s come from the manufacturer’s specification. How far each figure can be trusted is published, per format and worst case included, on the accuracy scorecard.

Building this into your own product? A free API key returns exactly these figures, and the widget puts this answer on a product page with one script tag.

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As JSON, from the API
curl -s https://llmbottleneck.com/v1/analyze \
  -H "Authorization: Bearer $LLMB_KEY" -H "content-type: application/json" \
  -d '{"model":"qwen-qwen3-8-flash-next","quantization":"Q2_K","context":8192,"hardware":"apple-m1-max"}'

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  data-model="qwen-qwen3-8-flash-next" data-quantization="Q2_K"
  data-hardware="apple-m1-max" data-context="8192"></script>

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